Episode 120

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14th Aug 2024

120: Scott Rick — Navigating Money and Relationships: Insights from Behavioral Decision Researcher Scott Rick

Scott Rick is a marketing professor at the University of Michigan’s Ross School of Business. He holds a PhD in Behavioral Decision Research from Carnegie Mellon University, where he was a National Science Foundation graduate research fellow. He has published research in premier journals spanning marketing, psychology, economics, and neuroscience. At the University of Michigan, he has won awards for both research and teaching. Rick's research has been covered extensively in outlets such as The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, The Washington Post, and NPR. His first book, Tightwads and Spendthrifts: Navigating the Money Minefield in Real Relationships, was published in January 2024 by St. Martin’s Press.

In this episode, I talk with Scott about common financial advice myths, how money occupies more space in our lives than it should, and the psychological factors that shape our spending personalities. Scott shares his personal experiences growing up with financial disparities and how those experiences influenced his financial behavior. We also dive into the dynamics of finances in relationships, addressing how couples can navigate financial conflicts to foster healthier relationships.


In this episode:

  • (00:00) - Welcome to Mindful Money
  • (01:05) - Meet Scott Rick: Behavioral decision researcher
  • (02:04) - Scott’s early life and money lessons
  • (04:57) - Teaching kids about money
  • (06:30) - The story behind tightwads and spendthrifts
  • (10:36) - Understanding tightwads and spendthrifts
  • (13:02) - Psychological and neurological factors in spending
  • (16:17) - Can financial personalities change?
  • (17:43) - Navigating financial behaviors in relationships
  • (20:48) - Opposites attract: Advice for financially mismatched couples
  • (22:00) - Setting up joint and separate accounts
  • (23:53) - Handling financial conflicts
  • (29:04) - And one thing couples should stop doing
  • (32:16) - Final thoughts and takeaways


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